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Triac Drilling cycle
Hello again, after a small break I have now been doing some jobs on the Triac again. Working well at the moment.

However one thing which puzzles me is the drilling cycle.
When drilling a series of holes each hole becomes shallower in depth!

any ideas :?:

Programme as below

G00 X0 Y0
G01 Z0 FZ200
G83 Z9 FZ200 C1
G00 Y-25
G00 X25
G00 Y0
G80

Thanks Roy
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what about the obvious - the drill's moving :oops:
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Thanks, For that!!, But That was the fist thing I checked!

I Should have mentioned that in the first post and it was not moving, So any other Ideas ???

Thanks, Roy
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Ah good! :wink:

I guess it's not a Fanuc control then?

cos The code ain't fanuc, maybe the feed is to high & the stepper is loosing steps how big is the hole (dia) try halving the feed.
going Z0 then Z9 to me is going away from the job Z0 = job surface & negative is normally into the job - but then if its not fanuc.... & whats that C1 I don't regognise that though I've not looked a the reference book so...??
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It is a PNC controller, Its drilling cycle is slighty odd anyhow as you need to put Z as a positive to to achieve a minus! Also it drills the depth (in this case 9mm) from where the G01 Z0 FZ200 line is! So if G01 Z3 it would drill 9mm from 3mm above job :wink:

The 'C' is cycles, So In Fanuc terms 'Q' number of pecks.

Only an 8.5mm hole feedrate etc is fine, It drills a treat if i programme longhand, just can't figure out why the actual drilling cycle does not work!! :?
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:? PNC urrrgggghh
well I've been forced to look in the fanuc book. G83 is peck drilling cycle so perhaps somewhere something is wrong with the peck distance or retact distance:?

perhaps it's a PNC "feature" :mrgreen:

have you tried G81?

Perhaps Mr Magoo will have further insights I'm sure he knows the quirks of these controllers
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Love to be able to use G81 :D

BUT, As its a PNC, I am stuck with only the choice of G83 :x , Unless I programme longhand.
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G81 is there.

Repeat function.
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ok. I know it's a PNC box .... but I asumed that G81 would be the same(ish) in fanuc speak it's the same as G83 but without the pecking, i.e, doesn't do a retract to clear the swarf

oh and Q in fanuc terms is the depth of cut for each cutting feed - but then that's irelevant to you. :lol:

when you use G83 does it indeed retract to clear the swarf? In fanuc the retract distance is set in a parameter not in the code, I just wondered...

where's Mr Magoo when you need him? :lol:
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G83 Does retract to clear swarf. You set it in the programme how many times you want it to retract.

Cutting edge stuff this PNC :)
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G83 Does retract to clear swarf. You set it in the programme how many times you want it to retract
as per fanuc but the retract distance is in a parameter not in code
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Hi Guys...

Just caught up with your posts.

Check if the display is reading correctly but the tool is mispositiong - this way you'll know if it's the steppers loosing position or the control s/ware misbehaving (although I think the terms "grandma" and "sucking eggs" could apply here :lol: ).

There is something in the back of my mind about a problem with a version of PNC milling s/ware that gave this symptom but I can be sure. I'll take a look in my archives & let you know if I find anything.
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There is something in the back of my mind about a problem with a version of PNC milling s/ware that gave this symptom but I can be sure.
There I said perhaps it was a feature :lol: :P :lol: :P
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Thanks Mr Magoo,

Your second idea seems to be more likely, as if i programme a 'new' drilling cycle at every position. I have no problem!

But obviously this is rather long winded!

I will await your findings

Roy
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Sorry if this is a daft question:

Can't you just create a 'long winded' program from a CAM system, and dump or drip feed it into the PNC ?
Or are you just being a CNC purist ? :wink:
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Having a quick look you are doing everything right so I I agree with Whizz, this is a 'special feature' in your version of the firmware :D

So I don't have a solution but would be interested to see if the symptoms change if this part of the program is in incremental - it may even work OK :!:
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Another one of the PNC's 'Special features' then!! Thanks Magoo, I will try it in Incremental just to see!

Admin, Creating a 'long winded' version is what i intended to do anyhow, as i am using a cam system, so just need to alter the post to suit.

But as the G83 drilling cycle was there, i thought i might try and make use of it!

Roy
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