Removing Triac Z axis ball screw.

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Rgvbaz
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Removing Triac Z axis ball screw.

Post by Rgvbaz » Tue 27 Feb , 2018 15:49 pm

Hi,

I've recently bought a project Triac. I knew the Z ball screw would probably need replacing but after some advice from Colin on here I have searched and found somewhere that may be able to re-ball it.

Clearly I have to take it out and that's where the challenge comes...

I've done some googling and I haven't found any info or procedure on doing this.

There doesn't look to be enough room for the screw to be removed without removing the lower bearing.

How I see it:

1 - remove pulley.

2 - remove locknut and tab from top of screw.

3 - not sure...

I don't want to hammer the lower bearing out with the screw as it may damage it.
I can't get to the rear to remove it with my blind bearing puller as there is no access.
I could maybe drive the bearing out with a long punch being careful?
I could unbolt the column of the base and get to it that way but I'd rather not disturb everything - saying that if I got the lower bearing out I would have to fit a new bearing from the bottom anyway.

It's a bit like one of those puzzles you get at Christmas.


Any thoughts would be appreciated - particularly if I am missing something obvious.

Thinking about taking the head ball nut bracket of too to go with the screw for the refurb so the pre-load is correct.




My Triac doesn't have the bearing cap as per the drawing below.


Drawing:
z leadscrew drawing.jpg
z leadscrew drawing.jpg (107.42 KiB) Viewed 362 times


Underneath bottom bearing:
Bottom z bearing_res.jpg
Bottom z bearing_res.jpg (1.1 MiB) Viewed 362 times
Top of bottom bearing:
Bottom z bearing top_Res.jpg
Bottom z bearing top_Res.jpg (1.12 MiB) Viewed 362 times
Top of top bearing:
Top z bearing top_Res.jpg
Top z bearing top_Res.jpg (1.09 MiB) Viewed 362 times
Bottom of top bearing:
top z bearing bottom_Res.jpg
top z bearing bottom_Res.jpg (1.12 MiB) Viewed 362 times
Cheers

Dave

Rgvbaz
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Re: Removing Triac Z axis ball screw.

Post by Rgvbaz » Tue 27 Feb , 2018 20:52 pm

Well - after my mate came around and had a look he noticed the z axis jib strip was moving up and down. We had a look and found a lot of play where the screw head contacts the jib strip and as the Z went up and down it would jam and cause the notchy feeling when the Z screw was moved.

We put a bit of solder on it and filed it back (just temporary) and put it back in and adjusted it and now the head moved up and down very easily.

Looks like I don't need to remove the Z ball screw at all now - Phew :)

Sorry for the post.

Cheers

Dave

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Re: Removing Triac Z axis ball screw.

Post by DavidB » Tue 27 Feb , 2018 21:45 pm

Sounds like a problem which affects many machines such as Bridgeport Mills and similar. I had it recently where when I wound the BP knee upwards it would start to jam and on inspection the classic top of the gibb breaking had happened in the past and it had been repaired. In my case a small cap screw had been drilled and tapped into the top of the gibb to take the place of the broken bit and fortunately when I adjusted things all came back to working again correctly with no more jamming.

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Re: Removing Triac Z axis ball screw.

Post by Rgvbaz » Tue 27 Feb , 2018 22:34 pm

Good to hear David :)

Glad you got the problem sorted as am I.

Cheers for the reply

Dave.

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