HELP WITH ERRORS NEEDED PLEASE

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HELP WITH ERRORS NEEDED PLEASE

Post by celad2001 » Fri 18 May , 2007 14:03 pm

HI I HAVE BEEN TASKED TO SORT OUT 3 OF THE COLLEGES DENFORD MACHINES THAT HAVE BECOME UNSERVICEABLE DUE TO VARIOUS REASONS MAINLY UNSKILLED USERS I BELIEVE..

PLEASE BEAR IN MIND I KNOW NEXT TO NOTHING ABOUT THESE MACHINES ONLY WHAT I HAVE GLEANED FROM THE MANUALS I AM AN ELECTRONICS TECH NOT A MACHINE MAN

MAYBE THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN 3 THREADS....?

1
FANUC TRIAC 0-M WAS SUFFERING FROM AN ERROR 101 OR 102 ? DUE TO SOMEONE POWERING DOWN WHEN IN RECIEVE MODE..

AFTER SOME TIME WE HAVE RE-ENTERED THE CORRUPT CODES..

BUT WE NOW HAVE 3 ERRORS WHICH WERE NOT THERE BEFORE WE ASSED ABOUT WITH IT..
1004 DRIVE TRANSFORMER OVERHEAT ( this comes on immediately)
1010 LOW AIR PRESSURE
520 OVER TRAVEL +Y

I CANT FIND THE >800 SCREEN AND BASICALLY I HAVE NO IDEA HOW TO PROCEED


2
A CYCLONE 0-T
ERROR
1003 TOOLPOST FAILED

3
SENIOR 200 FANUC OT
410 SERVO ALARM X AXIS EXCESS ERROR

DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY POINTERS TO HELP ME PLEASE OR IS THERE ANYONE FAMILIAR WITH THESE MACHINES WHO FANCIES A DRIVE TO DEVON TO HELP ME GET THESE MACHINES GOING AT ANYTHING LIKE A SENSIBLE CALLOUT CHARGE.

THANKS..ALEC

ALECJEFFORD@EXE-COLL.AC.UK

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Post by Martin » Fri 18 May , 2007 15:39 pm

The Triac sounds like you need to input the correct 450 diagnostics. (Diagnostics 450 to 458 ish are what Denfords set specific to each machine.)
See if you can find a record of what they were shipped out with.
If you have a ATC fitted then you will need to get a air supply to overcome the Air Message.


Have you set the 700 parameters? (machine limits)

We may still have a record of them at Denfords if you can supply the serial number & year of manufacture.


The Cyclone maybe similar.
It also uses 450 diagnostics.
I have attached a copy of them.
You need to check diagnostics 451.0 & 451.1


The Senior sounds a bit like you may have a value in parameters 555 that is causing the motor to jump. Try setting 555 & 556 to 0
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Post by Triac whizz » Fri 18 May , 2007 18:03 pm

FANUC TRIAC 0-M WAS SUFFERING FROM AN ERROR 101 OR 102 ? DUE TO SOMEONE POWERING DOWN WHEN IN RECIEVE MODE..

AFTER SOME TIME WE HAVE RE-ENTERED THE CORRUPT CODES..

BUT WE NOW HAVE 3 ERRORS WHICH WERE NOT THERE BEFORE WE ASSED ABOUT WITH IT..
1004 DRIVE TRANSFORMER OVERHEAT ( this comes on immediately)
1010 LOW AIR PRESSURE
520 OVER TRAVEL +Y
my book doesn't list error 102 so it must have been 101 ... the book says set data PWE to 1 and turn on the power while pushing the delete to clear the memory.

what did you change? put it back as it was :?
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Post by Triac whizz » Fri 18 May , 2007 18:14 pm

The Senior sounds a bit like you may have a value in parameters 555 that is causing the motor to jump. Try setting 555 & 556 to 0
:? :?: param 555 doesn't do didley for a lathe if I'm to believe my book & 556 is upper spindle speed clamp for constant surface speed...

I know there's a param for in position - but dunno the number :( could it be that that has been set to 0?

when does this error come up?
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Post by Triac whizz » Fri 18 May , 2007 18:24 pm

I think I might have found the param - 517

if this is set to 0 then loop gain is set for x y etc (presumably on the servos page) so.... I reckon this should be set to around 3000 or 0, maybe some oik has set it to 1 :twisted:
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Post by Mr Magoo » Sat 19 May , 2007 6:25 am

Re: Triac problems...

450 Diagnostic numbers in the Triac are used to enable / disable certain options in the machine.

If you have wiped the Machines memory you must set diag 453.0 to 1, then shut down and power the machine back up. This sets up some default values (and in turn resets 453.0 back to 0)

Now from the list below you can see you need to set Diag 450 bit 6 (your machine doesn't have a transformer thermal sensor) and probably 452 bit 5 (your machine doesn't have an air pressure switch ??).

Now you should be almost there... the overtravel message should clear once you jog away from the software limit.


Diagnostics for Denford Triac 0M controls
450.
.0 Axis IV fitted
.1 Programable vice fitted
.2 Aux 2 used for vice
.3
.4 Handwheel interupt fitted
.5 Pushbutton station uses "*ABSM" and "ZNG"
.6 Drive transformer thermal not fitted
.7 Aux 1 used for FMS

451.
.0 ATC fitted
.1 Carousel=2 revs per pocket
.2 Spindle orientation only is fitted
.3 Spindle motor thermal not fitted
.4 Guard interlock override
.5 Power drawbar only is fitted
.6 X axis references X -
.7 Data input MINP is used

452.
.0 Lube float swith override
.1 Lube float switch is open when empty
.2 Invert ATC sensors
.3 Program protect key switch override
.4 Ignore an M06 for a toolchange
.5 Air pressure switch not fitted
.6 Guard switch uses input 2
.7 Z axis not fitted (X Y table)

453.
.0 Diagnostic setup marker

454.
.0 Guard switch override pushbutton enable

455.
.4 Door override does not latch
.5 Guard switch override pushbutton does not work in auto mode
.6 Power door

457.
.4 Zero machine override
.5
.6
.7 Auto door alarm override

458
.0 Spindle orientation not fitted
.1 6 station ATC fitted
.2 8 station ATC fitted

463 Spindle top speed for orientation
464 Spindle bottom speed for orientation

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