Triac from 1990

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Triac from 1990

Post by Enny » Thu 09 Mar , 2006 20:27 pm

Hi there!

I own an older Triac VMC (1990) and use the original Heidenhain DTT.
My wish is to replace the Eurostep Controller with one of the newer Cards and use the Windows based Controll Software.
Is this just a dream or possible?

Enny

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Post by Steve » Fri 10 Mar , 2006 11:27 am

The Triac with the DTT can be upgraded. :D


The upgrade to Windows software VR MILLING 5 and a USB or RS232 interface can be made. This can be done on site by our engineers.

The upgrade code is UGR 0007

There is however one exception. :(

If the triac has a toolchanger fitted and it is controlled by a stepper motor then the current VR software will not drive the toolchanger.

If you have a stepper operated auto toolchanger then the machine can be upgraded but you would loose the toolchanger.

If you have an air operated toolchanger then this is still supported. :D

Please e-mail Sales@denford.co.uk for a quote on the upgrade and provide the machine serial number with the request and we will be able to look up the specification of the machine.

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Post by Enny » Fri 10 Mar , 2006 17:43 pm

Hi Steve!
I like good News!
Yes, the VMC has an ATC! The Arm Up/Down In/Out will use air pressure. There is a Motor to turn the Taper Holder!
I have read on your Homepage that an upgrade is only for Maschines after 1992!?

Machine Data:
Model: TRIAC VMC
SerialNo.: EO 4026
DespatchDate: Feb 1992
ExportNo.: 4026
Voltage 220 F.L.C 11Amp 50Hz 1PH
Control Voltage 24V Light Voltage 12V
Main Motor 1HP 0,75 DC PH
SerialNo. Of Electrics: 0001285

The upgrade is done by the replacing of the Eurostep Contoller Card (and PC and Cables), nothing more to rebuild on the Machine?
Any Ideas how much it would costs to me?

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Enny

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Post by Mr Orange » Fri 10 Mar , 2006 22:46 pm

Cost is around £1000-£1200 for Euro card and VR Milling 5 software - you will only have to put a hole in the electrical box to get the USB cable to the card.

Even if you have a stepper driven toolchanger, its still possible to customise the 'PLC' on the new controller so that the stepper redirection relay can be energised when needed at toolchange time.
All the software required to change the logic is on the VR Milling 5 CD.

Its up to you how badly you want to bring this machine up to date :!:

Personally I think its very worth-while as the new control vastly improves machining with block look ahead, smooth velocity contouring and high speed block throughput via USB. The latest version of VR milling also has some handy tools to import DXF and PCB gerber files and create offset toolpaths.

BTW, The USB interface will only work on Win2K or XP PC's, but will still support RS232 comms at 57600 baud on Win 95/98.

Hope this helps

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Post by Enny » Sun 12 Mar , 2006 14:55 pm

Sounds good, block look ahead, smooth velocity contouring!
There is one thing that i haven't understand the whole time: is the VRM-Soft necessary to use the machine whit the Euro-Card? As far as i understand it, the Euro-Card's contains the complete Machine-Controls and the Program-Disks add the Control like Heidenhain or Fanuc to write and simulate Programs. In this case the use of the older HH-Control would be possible? I use the Machine for my Hobby and wants to hold the cost as small as possible.
How much is it without the Software?

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Post by Denford Admin » Mon 13 Mar , 2006 9:50 am

Sorry, you can't run the new cards without the VR Milling software.

Half of the clever stuff is done in the software and half on the card - we have spent a lot of time developing and testing the USB card with our software to get the best performance.

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Re: Triac from 1990

Post by shakey j » Fri 24 Mar , 2006 20:58 pm

Enny wrote:Hi there!

I own an older Triac VMC (1990) and use the original Heidenhain DTT.
My wish is to replace the Eurostep Controller with one of the newer Cards and use the Windows based Controll Software.
Is this just a dream or possible?

Enny
Excuse my ignorance but what is a DTT?

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Post by Steve » Sat 25 Mar , 2006 22:46 pm

DTT is Desk top Tutor. This is the simulation keypad.

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Post by shakey j » Sun 26 Mar , 2006 0:25 am

Steve wrote:DTT is Desk top Tutor. This is the simulation keypad.
OK thanks I was hoping it was something to do with the Heidenhain data storage device I got with my Triac as I can't find any info on how it works :roll: :lol:

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